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capncastom

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PostPosted: 06/22/2010 at 9:05 PM    Post subject: Travis Bean - a Trademark by Franz Gründl. . . wa link

http:/ /www.travisbean.de/

???

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PostPosted: 06/23/2010 at 10:25 AM    Post subject: RE:Travis Bean - a Trademark by Franz Gründl. . . link

.......and where, exactly, is the aluminium?
Someone trying to cash in on the name.
Travis should sue the shit out of them.
e xx

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PostPosted: 06/23/2010 at 3:29 PM    Post subject: RE:Travis Bean - a Trademark by Franz Gründl. . . link

Just doesn't make sense to me, where is the Creativity?! Is it such a pain to use your brain..What about socalled German thoroughness !!? **** "mein Arschloch"

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PostPosted: 07/16/2010 at 10:21 PM    Post subject: RE:Travis Bean - a Trademark by Franz Gründl. . . link

Travis may have sold them the rights to manufacture his guitars.

Peggy

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adruery

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PostPosted: 07/18/2010 at 8:14 PM    Post subject: RE:Travis Bean - a Trademark by Franz Gründl. . . link

I was actually going to buy one of his pick-ups. Hasn't anyone here bought anything from this guy?

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PostPosted: 07/19/2010 at 9:51 AM    Post subject: RE:Travis Bean - a Trademark by Franz Gründl. . . link

www.barfuss-pickups.de rewinded TB pickups for me before and he did a wonderfull job. check his website and you will see that he makes pickups according to original TB specifications.

Regards, Jetze

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PostPosted: 07/19/2010 at 1:32 PM    Post subject: RE:Travis Bean - a Trademark by Franz Gründl. . . link

Wow... Look at this. someone please explain the provenance behind the name and manufacturing here . Thanks, jdb.

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PostPosted: 07/19/2010 at 11:08 PM    Post subject: RE:Travis Bean - a Trademark by Franz Gründl. . . link

I'm emailing back and forth with the manufacturer; seems like a nice guy and has years of experience making musical instruments sound the way professionals want.
I haven't talked with Travis lately but I'll ask him about the next time I do. If he didn't keep renewing his trademarks nationally and internationally anyone could register his name.
I would like to know what these guitars sound like. If the pick-ups are the same but the neck is wood instead of metal ... the notes won't sustain as long, right?
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PostPosted: 07/24/2010 at 9:40 AM    Post subject: RE:Travis Bean - a Trademark by Franz Gründl. . . link

I'm not sure what ingredients add up to sustain, an all wood Les Paul has nice sustain. Some Fenders have not so great sustain but we love their sound and playability anyway....I wonder if the trademark was licensed out or simply picked up upon expiration. These axes look like handmade beauties with respect & real connection to the originals not cheapo knockoffs. It is very certainly possible to find a fabricator/luthier to do the work behind the concept and lose no authenticity along the way. Life rolls on and new fingers make for diversity, care makes for improvements. I would like to know if this new TB can build a new bridge pick up for #807 fretless? If you hear that they are taking orders I would love to regain the thread of authenticity that was lost when the pick was replaced. Please keep posting what you find out.
Thanks, jdb


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PostPosted: 07/24/2010 at 9:55 AM    Post subject: RE:Travis Bean - a Trademark by Franz Gründl. . . link

Sorry, I should have said... I very much hope that Mr. Travis Bean has had a hand in these and that someone has not sniped his trademark regardless of how nice the guits look. Regardless of "legality" and split hair definitions of international law, taking someone's work w/out acknowledgement is unacceptable in the realm of art, science ....and everything else. jdb '

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PostPosted: 07/25/2010 at 11:28 PM    Post subject: RE:Travis Bean - a Trademark by Franz Gründl. . . link

they do not use barfuss pickups but schaller pickups and leosounds pickups. the resistance of these pickups (from 7.2 to 8.3 kOhms) has nothing in common with the original humbuckers which read more than 10 kOhms. and they don't have the metal baseplates like the originals.

if you need pickups built to original specs contact Kevin at EGC.

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ellai

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PostPosted: 07/26/2010 at 5:53 AM    Post subject: RE:Travis Bean - a Trademark by Franz Gründl. . . link

I played one o these guitars, they are bad quality rip offs. I don't understand why someone is taking such a big name and produces that kind of bad copies. This is stupid!

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PostPosted: 07/26/2010 at 3:26 PM    Post subject: RE:Travis Bean - a Trademark by Franz Gründl. . . link

which one you have played?

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PostPosted: 07/26/2010 at 4:50 PM    Post subject: RE:Travis Bean - a Trademark by Franz Gründl. . . link

ellai, could you give us a bit more of a creative review than that? Where did you find it? In the US? Europe?

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PostPosted: 07/27/2010 at 1:55 AM    Post subject: RE:Travis Bean - a Trademark by Franz Gründl. . . link

I played the 500 copy, in my hometown in cologne germany. The guitars are build in bavaria i guess. I own a 1000S and i played a TB500 so for me the difference was clear. The body is thicker and so is the wooden neck. It is funny that the guitar is nearly as heavy as my 1000S. The distance between the strings and the frets was uncomortable high and the tone/sustain was average. From a distance the guitar looks like a 500, if you hold it in your hands it looks like a china copy. I love my 1000S because it is has a very good playability and an extraordinary sound but also because it is a peace of artwork. I simply like to hold it my hands because it is so beautiull. The Franz Gründl guitar is poor compared to that. And it costs about 1800‚¬, I payed 800 for my 1000S. This model will surely disapear from the market, the guy should be a bit more creative and do his own designs.

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PostPosted: 07/27/2010 at 9:17 AM    Post subject: RE:Travis Bean - a Trademark by Franz Gründl. . . link

i have played the guitar bevor it goes to uli``s music store. im shure its the same- this one are a prototyp for low price.

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PostPosted: 07/27/2010 at 12:46 PM    Post subject: RE:Travis Bean - a Trademark by Franz Gr�ndl. . link

means (that nobody can say its wrong) this guitar is not the same like the series and sold for a lower price because prototyp.

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PostPosted: 07/27/2010 at 6:14 PM    Post subject: RE:Travis Bean - a Trademark by Franz Gründl. . . link

It sounds like the jury has returned with a verdict: These instruments are not related to the originals. No thread of authenticity. Thanks

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PostPosted: 08/10/2010 at 7:42 AM    Post subject: RE:Travis Bean - a Trademark by Franz Gründl. . . link

This guy is a real piece of work, looks like he added his guitars to the Travis Bean wikipedia entry (which was promptly deleted):

Prior to deletion: http://en.wikipedia.org/w.....ldid=376409873#New_Models

It would be one thing (though still not right) if he was making metal neck replicas, but the fact that these are wood is pure blasphemy.



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PostPosted: 08/27/2010 at 8:45 AM    Post subject: RE:Travis Bean - a Trademark by Franz Gründl. . . link

Looks like I spoke too soon:

http://twitter.com/TRAVIS.....NGIT/statuses/22257232891

"TRAVIS BEAN ® STD lim. edition from 28 pcs with aluminium neck for 2011 - preorder possible"

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starfired

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PostPosted: 08/27/2010 at 8:56 AM    Post subject: RE:Travis Bean - a Trademark by Franz Gründl. . . link

So we're basically pretty sure these have nothing to do with Travis himself and are the dodgy knock-offs they appear to be?

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PostPosted: 08/27/2010 at 9:04 AM    Post subject: RE:Travis Bean - a Trademark by Franz Gründl. . . link

@starfired

The man Travis Bean has nothing to do with these guitars. Not affiliated in any way.

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starfired

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PostPosted: 08/27/2010 at 9:16 AM    Post subject: RE:Travis Bean - a Trademark by Franz Gründl. . . link

Yeah I'm reading that they say they have registered the trade mark Travis Bean, but otherwise TB himself is not involved (which I never really thought he was).

Now I don't feel guilty about calling them cheap looking knock-offs on my twitter!

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PostPosted: 07/10/2011 at 6:41 PM    Post subject: RE:Travis Bean - a Trademark by Franz Gründl. . . link

This guy has started to post lots of stuff up on ebay some of the guitars up at around £5000. this person should be hunted down and delt with. He is trying to cash in on a sad day.

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