edp242
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I generally don't remember dreams or put particular emphasis on them, but last night i had one where someone was playing a TB wedge. In the dream it was the best sounding thing i'd ever encountered, so i guess my subconscious is convinced they are awesome without ever actually hearing one.
Anyone on the forum have one? How different are they from the other models? Care to compare and contrast?
Best,
Tim
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moreno
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| Posted: 12/28/2009 at 4:07 PM Post subject: RE:Wedge |
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Does Vincent Gallo own all the TB Wedges? I think he has the answer to your question.
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holmes
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| Posted: 12/28/2009 at 6:41 PM Post subject: RE:Wedge |
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so far as i know Video Game owns maybe 5 (or around that number) of wedges, which while not the entire factory output, is still a very ott amount to have in your sole possession ...considering there is less than 50 in existence. in terms of the sound of this odd shaped beast, i remember him saying (in one of his many posts), that the wedge sounded extremely close in tone to that of the 1000 series. i don't think there is as dramatic a difference in tone as to say that of a 1000 next to a 500. i think the 1000 and wedge are probably similar tonally to the point of nit picking. the wedge was designed to be a show-offy stage guitar really, concerned as much with tone quality as visual impact, and therefore not some great improvement (at least sonically) on the artist/standard series. interestingly, a natural finish wedge was the first bean i ever saw for sale on eGay. i bought it at a rock bottom price, and then sold it 3 years later to VG, generating enough profit to pay for 7000 small children which i then sold into slavery in all the big European capitals...with this i set up a steel trading empire and bought Chelsea football club. i then paid for all my closest friends and family to enjoy a charming Caribbean break in the company of myself, where they all agreed i had changed all of their stupid little 'lives' so positively, that i should be bought an egc isotona g by every member of this board, as why of saying thanks. which was nice.
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dwinner2@nycap.rr.com
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| Posted: 12/29/2009 at 7:59 AM Post subject: RE:Wedge |
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I guess you have a beef with Vincent Gallo? Did you really buy 7000 small children and sell them into slavery?
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TomWanderer
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| Posted: 12/29/2009 at 1:26 PM Post subject: RE:Wedge |
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Lots of guitar enthusiasts have a beef with Vincent because he has so many Travis Beans and Velenos and other collectible guitars, and they have a few or one or none. As a collector, he has more incredible and rare guitars than would be justifiable for someone who just wants to play a great guitar, and this keeps those incredible guitars out of the hands of you and me. Not really a big deal, but it's easy to get bent out of shape if you dwell on it. He also made no secret (while he was a forum member) about his frequent purchasing conquests and it would piss people off.
As for owning all the Wedges, that is far from the truth. I believe two reside (or did) at Electrical Audio in Evanston, and I believe two or three wedge basses belong to folks in the Chicagoland area.
There is a photo on the ECG myspace of a red Wedge side by side with an ECG Wedge. There are also some wedge-owning forum members who have posted some very nice pictures.
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edp242
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| Posted: 12/30/2009 at 8:38 AM Post subject: RE:Wedge |
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Ha! you've got generous "friends", Holmes. I would have kept the 7000 children and thrown a couple off random buildings to see what people would do and then bought guns for the rest and told them to go an conquer some shit in my name... But then again, i like aluminum necks, which makes me a bit strange according to some.
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Peter Doran
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| Posted: 01/04/2010 at 12:34 AM Post subject: RE:Wedge |
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During the 1970's I worked for eight years as a sales rep for Norlin. At the time we owned Gibson. During those years I met Travis Bean many times at trade shows. I loved Travis's guitars very much and had a friendly relationship with him. Working at Norlin allowed me very large discounts on any Gibson brand product, however in 1976 I purchased a Travis Bean guitar for personal use.
About two years ago I wrote to Vincent Gallo through his website vincentgallo.com and offered him to buy my Travis Bean guitar. My asking price then was extremely high and was most likely more than anyone else would have paid for it then or even now. I enjoyed Vincent's posts on this forum very much and also enjoyed our two phone calls regarding my guitar for sale.
One month later Vincent Gallo arrived at my home in Massachusetts to purchase the guitar. I was immediately struck by how friendly, funny, and polite he was. He pestered me with questions about Travis and seemed more enthusiastic about Travis Bean guitars than I had ever seen anyone about anything. Vincent spent very little time inspecting the guitar and without any haggling whatsoever paid me for the instrument.
I badly needed the money Vincent paid for the guitar and I had long ago lost interest in the guitar. Meeting Vincent Gallo and selling him my guitar was a pleasure. I notice that all the negative comments about Vincent Gallo posted here are from members who never met him or did a deal with him and I find it hard to understand the negative attitude towards him.
I do not believe holmes sold Vincent Gallo a wedge nor do I understand the purpose of his bogus claim in any way other than as an expression of holmes' own personal hang ups with Vincent and/or his jealousy of him.
Those who claim Vincent has prevented them from owning a Bean should simply look on eBay. There is always one for sale there, and there will always be one for sale, regardless of how many Beans Vincent collects.
When Vincent was a more active collector the Bean market was stimulated and when he posted here this forum as much more fun and alive.
Today's slow Bean market reflects his missing presence as does the incredible dullness of the current Bean forum.
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rlrlrl
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| Posted: 01/04/2010 at 8:19 AM Post subject: RE:Wedge |
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Hi Peter,
I enjoyed your story, and have nothing but respect. In fact, that seems to be what I hear from everybody who does business with VG. The rest of us can only go by his posts here (now unfortunately deleted), and private emails (which he has a strange habit of posting publicly). The tell a different story, but it's not one that needs to be endlessly rehashed.
Concerning the market for these guitars, you're a bit off. When I first joined this forum, the Bean frenzy was at such a height that there were none on Ebay of Craigslist for months and months. And when they did show up, people wanted like $6k for a koa Standard. VG only collects the rare models and colors, but his attitude did inspire others and create a mini-market. You may complain that the Bean market is down, but that gives many musicians a chance to experience one of these amazing guitars. How many people out there can afford to pay $2500 but not $4000? I'd be a a lot. To me, that's really important.
Yes this forum is not entertaining, the way it used to be. But that just means that the kids in the bands are actually playing their guitars, instead of bickering about them with a Personality.
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Peter Doran
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| Posted: 01/04/2010 at 3:36 PM Post subject: RE:Wedge |
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Hi rlrlrl,
Like you said pretty much everyone who has done business with Vincent Gallo has had very nice things to say about him and his business practices. I can remember only one person here who claimed he did not enjoy a deal with Vincent and that person seemed to be muttering that they had history from what I could follow.
I am not sure what you mean when you say Vincent's postings tell a different story. You yourself were often antagonistic towards Vincent in your past posts and I was sure you were going to write something clever to try to diminish the nice things I said about him. You seem to be one of the biggest trash talkers when it comes to jealousy and contempt for Vincent Gallo.
Most of the Bean frenzy was created by Vincent's deep pockets and love for the brand. From what I understand, Vincent was buying natural finish Bean guitars for a long period of time and when he stopped buying those they where the first to drop in price by 50%.
My friend Gerry in Massachusetts told me you are peddling a white Artist model for $20,000. Without Vincent Gallo's past Bean purchasing history your inflated pricing would seem insane.
Let me know where all the kids in bands are playing their Beans, as I have not seen anything too exciting live in years.
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rlrlrl
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| Posted: 01/04/2010 at 4:09 PM Post subject: RE:Wedge |
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I really don't want to start this again, but I will write one little bit about this. The entire canon of VG tomes have been deleted from this site, so unless you were reading here two years ago, you haven't seen what went on. I think a lot of people here would back me up.
Gerry is a very nice guy, and what he told you is incorrect. I'm not really into taking up private things on the internet, though some people seem to enjoy that sort of thing.
If you aren't hearing any good music, I'm sorry, cause there's a lot of cool stuff happening every day.
This is just silly!
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Joefish
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| Posted: 01/05/2010 at 5:23 PM Post subject: RE:Wedge |
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Hi Peter, Regarding the current forum, I agree that it sure isn't the same without Vincent.
However, regarding the current market, with the exception of Wedges, I think that the financial mess last year that almost ended western civilization as we know it (¦resulting in everyone selling a bunch of guitar/gear) had more to do with it then Vincent not posting.
Joe
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holmes
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| Posted: 01/06/2010 at 11:30 AM Post subject: RE:Wedge |
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peter, if you genuinely lack the ability to tell that my post was a joke then i feel sorry for you quite frankly.
as for vincent, i dont have anything against the guy. his music (for the most part) is completly balls, he owns a ridiculous amount of the very few beans in existence and seems a snarky shit when he wants to be, but i dont actually dislike the guy or have anything against because he is rich and a public figure. im not jeolous of him either, thanks, and ive got all the beans i need. i fail to see how i was making a cutting spiteful personal attack on him in my post. i find that quite an offensive assumption really. i actually think this place is a remarkably dull place now that he has gone, and that isnt helped by silly po-faced people like you, getting confused in your old age. he constantly made me laugh at least, and by all accounts ive read, everyone who dealt with him on a business level had a very pleasant experience...both orally and financially.
peace.
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shinkiro
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| Posted: 01/07/2010 at 3:49 AM Post subject: RE:Wedge |
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If the place is so dull maybe we should start talking about interesting stuff?
Y'think.
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holmes
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| Posted: 01/11/2010 at 4:21 AM Post subject: RE:Wedge |
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good effort there shinkiro.
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moreno
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| Posted: 02/02/2010 at 1:46 PM Post subject: RE:Wedge |
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How much $$ would it cost to purchase a Wedge if one were for sale?
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Chris Hall
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| Posted: 02/03/2010 at 3:42 PM Post subject: RE:Wedge |
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I'll sell you my TB4000 "wedge" bass for $90,000.
So, I guess that much.
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moreno
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| Posted: 02/04/2010 at 10:45 AM Post subject: RE:Wedge |
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$$90,000-- I would have thought it would have been a bit more ? do you have more than one for sale ? or is this a Vincent Gallo price ?
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Joefish
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| Posted: 03/06/2010 at 2:02 PM Post subject: RE:Wedge |
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A quick update: After playing my Bean pretty much every day for the last 15 months, we finally bonded. Last night, I was playing clean through my 75 SFTR without pick and for the first time, preferred it to my 69 Tele for fills and such for Alt. Country.
It took a few months for the crunch solo sound to click. Then, after a few more months, I wrote a Distillers kind of song and got the rhythm sound going.
I love this guitar!
Joe
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