david johnson
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 Posted: 07/26/2003 at 5:44 AM Post subject: buying a bean in a bad economy |
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recently, I have been following the sales of travis bean guitars on e-bay, through independent dealers, and through independent sellers.
over the last few months, absolutely NO ONE at all has sold a travis bean guitar through e-bay, or through any other sort of outlet for a reasonable price. this leads me to believe that we are in the midst of a "buyers market" for these absolutely incredible instruments.
pretty much ANYONE can now afford one of these awesome things (if you have a lot disposable income), and it really takes the idea of TB ownership to a new level¦ remember when sellers overseas were posting their "priceless" TB guitars for insane amounts of money? those days are over!!!
score one for honest musicians!!!
but now, who can buy???????
this is just my opinion, but I think that potential buyers should hold off just a little bit longer. right now, sellers are hanging on to beans thinking that they are "valuable" (and they of course, are). but after a few more months of recession, they will want to part with these things because a valuable guitar sitting on a rack becomes a liability to business (i.e. lower prices)¦
I would watch the independent dealers in particular; they really "take the hit" of a bad economy, and would probably be the first to unload a TB for a great price.
like I said, this is just my opinion, but if you want to jump on some great deals on TB's, just wait it out and save some $$$. you will probably never have a chance like this again to score on one of the most revolutionary guitars of any time for a great price!!!
thnx¦
dave
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Craig
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| Posted: 08/20/2003 at 9:36 AM Post subject: RE:buying a bean in a bad economy |
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In theory waiting might work, but I doubt it. I have a TB500 and being the most popular model and there being only 350 on earth, waiting ain't going to help. The price on these is only going up. I understand the frustation that people -especially a musician that would use the guitar- feel when they want a Bean and a collector is holding on to one. But prices to ever go down is daydreaming. I use my TB500 at every show, but if you've got a spare $5000...
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JackJones
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| Posted: 08/22/2003 at 2:32 PM Post subject: RE:buying a bean in a bad economy |
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There's definitely an interesting dynamic going on.
Because there are so few Beans on the market, wouldn't it seem that there would be more people interested in any one Bean that appears for sale?
And if that's the case, then the bidding on say, Ebay would be vicious!
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Craig
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| Posted: 08/27/2003 at 10:16 AM Post subject: RE:buying a bean in a bad economy |
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That's the problem that the people who complain about price don't understand. It's basis of the capitalist economic systems: scarity, demand etc. Owning a Bean is not a charity. I would never sell mine, ever. I use mine but if I didn't I still wouldn't have a responsibilty to sell it at a low price just because someone else wants it, the bidding starts at $5,000
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jack jones
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| Posted: 09/10/2003 at 11:47 AM Post subject: RE:buying a bean in a bad economy |
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I hear that! Though I think I'm gonna need to sell my 500!
Bidding starts at $1900
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david johnson
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| Posted: 09/20/2003 at 4:12 AM Post subject: RE:buying a bean in a bad economy |
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shit, i wish!!!
$15.00 winner takes all (i'll throw a few subway cupons in too)!!!
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jack jones
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| Posted: 09/20/2003 at 12:41 PM Post subject: RE:buying a bean in a bad economy |
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Well, I just sold my very clean TB500 on Ebay for $1,775. I'm curious as to what y'all's opinions are on that.
Personally, I think it's a pretty good deal!
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JohnF
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| Posted: 10/05/2003 at 8:12 PM Post subject: RE:buying a bean in a bad economy - But look! |
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6 months ago I would have said you got a good deal. - I remember a mint white 500 going for around 2,000 on ebay in the early spring(?) so I'd figure 1,700 to be good. However, what the hell just happened with that TB1000A that went for nearly 3 grand? Nicely figured koa, but ....huh??? Can anyone speculate?
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virtualinc
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| Posted: 10/06/2003 at 10:57 AM Post subject: RE:buying a bean in a bad economy |
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3G is steep, but I think it's closer to the right price, all things considered. Getting a bargain is great, but as an ardent TB fan I really want the market to respect how absolutely great and rare these guitars are. They belong in the pantheon. . .
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Craig
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| Posted: 10/20/2003 at 8:55 AM Post subject: RE:buying a bean in a bad economy |
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Spot on. I've said it over and over. TB ownership is a not charity. People have to accept that if you want one they are getting more expensive by the day. Of course it will flatten. But as long as there are people willing to buy a TB500 for $2000, that's how much they cost. I would part with mine for less than $4000. Especially since I paid $100 for it in New Zealand.
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Stéphane
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| Posted: 02/23/2004 at 8:44 AM Post subject: RE:buying a bean in a bad economy |
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Travis Bean guitars are just expensive and the fact is there are only a few around, capitalism is what we wanted, so lets pay the price I payed mine 1200 Britisch pounds (+/- 2300 dollars), but then again it is mint
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Horneyefamine
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| Posted: 04/16/2004 at 12:01 PM Post subject: RE:buying a bean in a bad economy |
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I think basically the trade of Beans revolves around 2 kinds of people, 1: collectors desiring a rare and expensive instrument, and 2: players desiring a rare and exotic instrument. The perpetual sale of these though, is that 1: collectors sell them off when they need cash, because they realize that TBs aren't going to appreciate in value much more because, being so rare, no one hardly knows about them, and therefore, without much demand, it would be better to invest in a special edition Les Paul.
And 2: players desiring a rare and exotic sounding instrument find the Bean TOO exotic for their taste and unload it as soon as they need extra cash.
Just a thought on why Beans continually recycle on Ebay and don't just disappear into the hands of collectors.
But the garden variety TB1000s usually only go for $1000-$1500, right around a third as much as someone would pay for a Les Paul Custom. Affording a Bean isn't a daunting task, you just have to be patient.
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