BeanDip
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vince is right this site blows it has blown for a long time. I heard Chris Burke will be playing Hank in the travis bean movie. Don't you think they favor???
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holmes
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| Posted: 02/20/2009 at 7:38 AM Post subject: RE:my name backwards |
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wow! what shit thread!
although i really cant understand why we are not allowed to type swear words and we often have our posts deleted which is blatant censorship we still are on a site that has all the difference for travis bean fans and dont forget it - it takes alot of time and effeort to run, and is run by a man with a real passion for it.
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JohnBR
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| Posted: 02/20/2009 at 7:45 AM Post subject: RE:my name backwards |
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Holmes, don't you think you are talking to Gallo, or his buddy eric erlandson or maybe it's peggyfoster? I guess he would not do that. He is such an honest and honorable man.
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JohnBR
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| Posted: 02/20/2009 at 7:47 AM Post subject: RE:my name backwards |
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This site has blown since March of '07, when Gallo joined which was right after the Garcia guitar sold. He must have smelled dollars then came over here, pretended to be a nice guy and shook this Travis Bean tree as hard as he possibly could. The whole time telling me, at least, how much he disliked "Travis Bean people". What was the name of that NY guitar store we constantly were hearing about anyways? I doubt there was one.
Yea so, whatever your name is, why don't you take your ball and go home and you can email yourself back and forth and say that it should have been you making the movie. I mean, Vice Gallo is the 5th Beatle and adopted son of Yoko Ono. And, by the way, you CAN take a guitar on an airplane without checking it in. It's called, buy another seat. I suppose you are just too cheap to do that. Also, if that guy spent as much time practicing the guitar as he did posting on this site and trying to finagle Beans from people, he might actually be able to play.
I for one look forward to a much more friendly environment over here.
YOU HAVE ALL BEEN HAD. GET IT YET?????
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BoulderBean
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| Posted: 02/20/2009 at 9:21 AM Post subject: RE:my name backwards |
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Your name backwards is a clear indication of what an angry, mean-spirited, small minded adolescent you are. If you are not Mr. Gallo, you are a measly suck-up surrogate. I address these comments to the cowardly Kcuf.
It must be really painful for a supreme narcissist like Gallo to watch someone else make a movie about Travis Beans. It hurt so bad that he had to pick up his toys and stomp back to his own house, spewing mindless venom at those who would dare defile the sacred guitar territory he staked out as his own. As his infantile rage and resentment at being excluded from the movie festered Gallo insisted that everything associated with him be removed from this site! I suspect the Admin was only too happy to comply.
Two words for Mr. Gallo....grow up.
I'll miss the occasional insights Gallo brought to the site about these instruments. It was amusing in a voyeuristic way to hear about his latest Travis Bean conquests from across the globe. Even his quasi-pathetic purchase of Ms. Foster's wedge bass provided a weird sort of entertainment.
What I won't miss is the utter disdain and disrespect Gallo had for just about everyone else on this site and in particular his rude and ungrateful attitude towards the Admin who has spent countless unpaid hours making this site into a really cool place for Bean enthusiasts to gather.
Farewell Vincent. Have fun with your collection.
Peter
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rlrlrl
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| Posted: 02/20/2009 at 9:32 AM Post subject: RE:my name backwards |
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Is it just me, or does this seem oddly similar to Mr Gallo's own accusations of Bill Kaman?
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bombjack
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| Posted: 02/20/2009 at 9:35 AM Post subject: RE:my name backwards |
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Wow! Is that what happened? I had noticed that a few days worth of posts had disappeared about a week ago (a restore from backup perhaps) but that was after some other contentious posts had happened.
I don't own any beans any longer but someday I hope to have another bean....so I have just been lurking around and admiring all of the beans in the database and gallery.
Anyway, hopefully everyone can regroup and restore the boards to what the original intention was following the demise of the EZBOARD TB site. It's bean a pleasure reading about all of the beans that are out there, being played and admired.
Cheers everyone!
John
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JohnBR
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| Posted: 02/20/2009 at 10:53 AM Post subject: RE:my name backwards |
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BoulderBean, Peter, I could not have said it better myself. I will be the first one to admit that Gallo is probably a genius, but an evil genius who was exactly how you described: his disclusion from the movie must have festered inside that he finally "took his ball and went home". He was only here to take advantage of naive owners like myself and to buy their guitars by whatever means possible. Remember, he said, "I'll take all the colored artists and you guys can have the rest". How generous.
I am not one to bash a person but I suppose I can't resist. my reason for this second post is in regards to rlrl's comment about the bill Kamen thread where Gallo called his collection invalid because he was the "spoiled son of a billionaire" who obtained his collection by paying off the guys at Guitar Center to put every Bean aside for him. Well, ironically, Gallo has that EXACT same deal set up with many guitar dealers. Richard Henry Guitars in the U.K. is one that comes to mind. Henry advertises that he is looking for wedge and colored artist Beans. But you will never see one for sale on his website. They go directly to Gallo. I know so because I offered him a colored artist and he told me that I should contact Gallo direct because they were for him anyways, thus avoiding the hassles of shipping back and forth to England and the customs charges.
How is that any different from what the great Bill Kamen did? At least Kamen has created a guitar company and in fact has created an acoustic guitar that is unique and is a successful model to this day.
Imagine the audacity of requesting to administer this website. This site is the #1 most important site to the Travis bean guitar. It has been created, managed and run by our Admin for over a decade. It is his baby.
Anyways, those who know me, know that I am a decent person. Those who have heard about me through Gallo have heard tons of negative stuff that boils down to half truths, lies and inuendos. I plan to keep my "big fat mouth" shut from now on regarding this situation. I only hope that this wonderful resource will be a kinder, gentler place. I'm sure it will.
-peace
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charlie
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| Posted: 02/20/2009 at 12:44 PM Post subject: RE:my name backwards |
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Peter (boulderbean), you have perfectly described my thoughts on this. thank you
John, I prefer to hold the genius bar a bit higher.
knah kcuf, uoy kcuf
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theNewTerritories
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| Posted: 02/20/2009 at 2:46 PM Post subject: RE:my name backwards |
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Whoa...
what on Earth happened? I take a break from the internet for a while and when I come back all of Gallo's posts are gone and little punks like knah kcuf are posting garbage like this???
what is going on?
I don't mean to stir up anything here and if it has been an issue, could somebody send me an email about it.
Geez.
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BeanDip
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| Posted: 02/21/2009 at 3:27 AM Post subject: RE:my name backwards |
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Did any one have the foresight to copy Gallo's rants before they were deleted? Some one should do a "best of" thread if they did. Gallo made this sight fun. Hank deleting any negative or flame like posts made it dead boring. It was like kindergarden. Just like in sports "trash talking" is a big part of guitar collecting. Does ESPN cut to commercial any time there is a fight? NO! it's actually one of the most interesting parts of the game. Hank ruined his site by deleting everything that was interesting. I do have a new found respect for him for not deleting this thread. I even compared him to Chris Burke (Corky from life goes on) and it has still not been deleted. Are the good old days back? BTW before you guys jump all over me.... I have donated money to this site. How many of you skinflints have done so??? Sure I said "kcuf" hank but at least I paid him first!
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JohnBR
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| Posted: 02/21/2009 at 8:55 AM Post subject: RE:my name backwards |
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Hey ****, well, I guess we felt like saying **** hank was pretty much out of line and no matter what he thinks of me I will always give him the props and respect that he deserves. How many Beans would Mr. Gallo own if not for this website? A LOT less. Also, I have never known Hank to delete posts unless they go far out of line. He is a pretty tolerant guy. Plus a "F.U" from some tool that he doesn't even know really doesn't amount to much. You have so much wit and smarts. You fooled us! Nice going!
As for the arguements being entertaining, I get what you mean, but when it involves you and maybe many thousands of dollars and/or a Travis Bean guitar, it's not so fun. I bet you like watching men in tights wrestle. So, watch wrestling to entertain yourself and come on this website if you have a question about Travis Bean Guitars. Pretty much solves that, no?
About the Gallo posts, I happen to agree with you. I'm sure that every last post is saved and it might be entertaining to read "the Gallo Papers", although it would confuse a lot of people who actually want to learn about Beans since every post he made was an attempt to slant favor towards himself with the intent of hoping to get you to sell him a colored artist or wedge. If you have not seen it, he has his own web-page now saying "sell me your Bean. No one pays more." False.
And, Charlie as for the genius comment, you are probably right. I was simply trying to acknowledge the guy's body of work and admit that he is a talented person living a dream life. Some do, but most people don't get that far by accident. Well, I guess many do. But I kind of felt badly talking smack about someone who is not even here or able to respond, though he could simply email me. I think most people who want it know my name and email address by now. Or you can call me Dank, my silly online moniker. Last name, Bud.
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rlrlrl
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| Posted: 02/21/2009 at 9:19 AM Post subject: RE:my name backwards |
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JohnBR, you're right that it's different to be in the middle of some weird thing, instead of watching from the sidelines, and when there's a lot of money involved, sometimes it's not so funny. Some of us watched VG push around JohnBR, about a year ago if I remember, in ways that were not only serious, but also manipulative, ruthless, and cruel. He's obviously a self aware guy, and so to be so smart and yet so cold, I would really have to say that the word "genius" is pretty apt. George W Bush was no genius, but Dick Cheney certainly is. I apologize for using such a harsh comparison, but there is a point.
Also as to finding the saved posts, I think some of those old threads are much more amusing now with the "deleted" line in there. Comical even. It reads like early 20th century avant-garde comedy, a l Beckett or something. So if anything positive came out of this, there it is.
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BoulderBean
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| Posted: 02/21/2009 at 10:14 AM Post subject: RE:my name backwards |
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Mr. Kcuf,
Your comment, "At least I paid him first" is patently offensive. Our site Admin, Hank, is not some whore that you can pay your money to and then **** the shit out of. Change your profile name immediately and adjust your attitude if you want to be part of this community. I don't care how much money you have donated to this site (many of us have donated FYI). Your posts on this thread are despicable.
Peter
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charlie
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| Posted: 02/21/2009 at 11:15 AM Post subject: RE:my name backwards |
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Hey kcuf,
You are a piece of work.
I completely agree with BB (again) Your crass references to Hank are extremely juvenile and over the line. Please treat this site like a community not some adolescent flame board.
And your kissing up to VG is just plain embarrassing.
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theNewTerritories
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| Posted: 02/21/2009 at 7:11 PM Post subject: RE:my name backwards |
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Hey knah kcuf,
I just want to to say that I find your name and posts incredibly disrespectful.
Kid, (I don't know your age, but your maturity level and bait-style posts lead me to the conclusion that you are a teenager or younger) I consider posting at this site kind of like being at Hank's house.
This is his house, his rules and I for one would never disrespect a host in his own home. You need to learn some humility and some manners.
If you would like to build your own forum to further your interest in the pathology of Mr. Gallo and to relieve your obvious boredom, naivety and pettiness then by all means do so. In your own house you can be king- maybe the fact that you are still rebelling against mommy and daddy hasn't taught you the value of having your own home or how to address your elders when in theirs.
My advice for you is to take a break from the internet, grow up a little and find less irritating ways to alleviate your boredom.
Outside there are these awesome creatures called girls.
The internet is a big enough place for you to find forums where all people do is 'trash talk'. Who knows you may even find a place where someone else cares about this Chris Burke you keep going on about.
Hank has in no way 'ruined his site'
now shut the f u c k up will the adults are talking!
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BeanDip
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| Posted: 02/21/2009 at 11:46 PM Post subject: RE:my name backwards |
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My entire point which you just proved is that people love the drama. Every one took a turn repeating the exact same thing to me over and over. NewFound's was the best because he actually mentioned Chris Burke again! When ever anyone posts something about "fretwire" or "Koa vs Magnolia" the responses are few as well as the views. Put an actual interesting debate or flame up and the views and post explode! (If it is not deleted first) I am going to stop talking about "hank" and "things getting deleted" because it looks like things have gotten more Leinient. Having a few flames, a few debates, and tons of info is a good mix.
Any one who implies that Gallo took advantage of any one is an idiot. He did not use a gun and ski mask did he? If you willingly sold him your guitar at a price you both agreed on then what is the problem? Some one posted that they got an artist for $500 bucks recently. Why did you not inform the seller that he could get much much more for it? YOU TOOK ADVANTAGE OF HIM!!!!??
Everything you needed to know what your guitar was worth was on this very site. He is the very reason prices went so high in the first place. I do not know much about him personally but his posts were fun and funny. I looked forward to them.
THE ONLY WEDGES ANY OF YOU BROKE LOSERS ARE EVER GOING TO OWN ARE MADE OF CHEESE.
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rlrlrl
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| Posted: 02/21/2009 at 11:53 PM Post subject: RE:my name backwards |
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your ignorance is boring.
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Jimbeans
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| Posted: 02/22/2009 at 7:17 PM Post subject: RE:my name backwards |
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Whomever is responsible for bullying Gallo Off the forum should be ashamed of themselfs, He seemed like someone that wasn't just blabbering to feel important or have something to say on here, his stuff actually had substance, For the aluminum neck ovation guitar if that was bill kaman design that was a faulty designed guitar if you had fret problems you had to order a whole other neck the frets was part of the aluminum....... and comparing gallo to him is ludacris
Go Checkout boulderbeans website myspace if that was me on stage holding the bean i wouldn't be telling people to GROW UP
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JohnBR
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| Posted: 02/22/2009 at 7:24 PM Post subject: RE:my name backwards |
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when did Ovation make an aluminum neck guitar? No one bullied VG, in fact, he should come back and list all his guitars in the data base. Isn't that kind of the goal here? This thread is dead. It is now officially a non-issue.
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rlrlrl
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| Posted: 02/22/2009 at 7:27 PM Post subject: RE:my name backwards |
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actually john I think they did make acoustic guitars with metal in the neck, but i don't think that's relevant. mr jimbean is just mistaken because he doesn't (yet) know any better.
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JohnBR
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| Posted: 02/22/2009 at 7:38 PM Post subject: RE:my name backwards |
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I see. Well Ovation definately did some cool and different things. A buddy in high school had one of their plastic back guitars and we used to borrow it for our acoustic sets. It was a really swell guitar! Then they made them thinner, and if not mistaken, Taylor now has a model that is very similar to the Ovations of 10-20 years ago.
The only reason, Jimbean, that I brought up Kamen in the Gallo thread is because VG took great pleasure in slandering Bill Kamen for no reason what-so-ever. Made some REALLY mean statements about a guy who is not even on this forum. Personal shit. So, I was simply pointing out that Bill Kamen has actually made advances in acoustic guitars. Yea, they are not the best guitars ever and I don't know Bill Kamen and maybe he's an ass. Point is, I think we are trying to eliminate personal bickering and stick to fun stuff like that amp thread. I love hearing about what you guys play your Beans through.
peace
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Jimbeans
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| Posted: 02/22/2009 at 7:41 PM Post subject: RE:my name backwards |
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http://www.guitar-museum......stic-Guitar-Aluminum-Neck
Well I just assumed kaman was reason why ovation produced one...... I'm in no way a Ovation expert I just know my luthier friend had a handful of those things brought to him in the 80's early 90's and the answer was always the same nothing he could do for them..... once those thin aluminum frets are gone they are history
Listing every detail about your guitar including serial number doesn't seem like all that great of an idea unless you want 4 or 5 replicas of your guitar to hatch later on down the road....specially when technology gets better and mimicking gets more accurate
Yea I agree though I hope VG does come back sooner or later
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rlrlrl
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| Posted: 02/22/2009 at 7:48 PM Post subject: RE:my name backwards |
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some people view this forum as light entertainment, and for them the prospect of comparing the slight nuances of similar guitars is boring, so they try to shake things up. there are plenty of entertaining places to go on the interweb if what you're seeking is entertainment. that's the beauty of it all, we can all waste our time however we so please. so if we want to compare serial numbers, it's our prerogative, eh?
(the Kaman comparison is a little more sinister, though it's totally neutral about Kaman himself. But I don't think it serves anybody to go into more depth).
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JohnBR
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I think it would be pretty hard to replicate unique and 1 of a kind endangered Hawaiian Koa. To me, one of the cool things about these babies is that every one is unique. 4 or 5 replica/clones? I'm not sure why you think someone would or could clone these things. That is a silly statement. There are at least 3 guys making their own awesome aluminum neck guitars, Bailey, EGC and Bastin. They are all really cool.
I actually would love to see someone produce dead-on replicas of the Travis Bean. Though I highly doubt it could be done. I'm having trouble wrapping my mind around that statement. Must be me.
-peace and nice to meet you Jim beans!!!
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Jimbeans
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| Posted: 02/22/2009 at 8:05 PM Post subject: RE:my name backwards |
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Well if there is 3 people that can get close now imagine in another 10 years... painting over koa the grain isn't going to be such an issue for those with rare colors ...
I do'nt know who you were referring to as sinister I just thought what i felt was the kaman inspired guitar was just nothing to brag about thats all
And actually I would be more entertained by the SMALL difference from one bean to the next then what usually gets talked about......
Point was giving your guitar invetory with serial numbers included with your pictures included is a rip off artist dream in the future I imagine if not already...... I wasn't just referring to beans but lets say if we talked about fenders or any brand..... one of a kind yes....... but who knows what the future may bring if some aren't out there already........
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| Posted: 02/22/2009 at 11:16 PM Post subject: RE:my name backwards |
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RE: Jimbeams' counterfeiting posts
If everyone has the complete information on their guitars posted in the database here then it would be easy for anyone looking to purchase a guitar to come here and find the history of the guitar including the current owner. It stands to reason they'd also be able to find out via the contact information listed if the person selling the guitar is who they say they are.
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ReneVanLien
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| Posted: 02/23/2009 at 2:58 AM Post subject: RE:my name backwards |
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No one bullied VG, in fact - correct
But he spoke with fire. I believe he was open and honest in his actions and words. But he is quite a character when he feels people are talking air, or are not explicit enough. VG's threads read away very well. He is capable stating his arguments clearly and I feel he did have a lot of good points in discussions with other members (as well as a load of good information). I heard Gallo offer meet-ups with people out of sheer shared enthusiasm for the instruments, regardless of his status as a Hollywood figure etc.. He is a strange guy, but much more "real" than many people in that world I think.
However, I also wondered why his guitars were not listed, no pictures etc.. I thought the argument for that was that he wanted to create a TB picture book of his collection. But then again, why not also some pics on the forum? Or a group picture of the aluminium harem?
Any shit towards Hank, I don't get. I only had nice chats with Hank and he makes this site. The fact that we as forum members spend so much time bitching around is only human. After all, what is a community if it would not feel insulted by someone who tries to prove a point in the worst way possible?
This site has blown? what threads would we want to see here? We already know so much about TB guitars by now. I am mostly interested in nice stories concerning beans most of time. Like the stories by Obie and Peggy foster (e.g). There is a lot of good stuff to find here, and hopefully any new info will end up here !
Is there anyone who knows what actually happened? VG was in the end a respected member on this forum and a lot of people value his input, and he just left over a "no"reason? I hate these speculations as they give me no clarity on this at all. Why am I curious? THIS is still a community! We all have been on this site for about 2-3 years with Gallo along.
Thanks
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BoulderBean
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Hey Jimbeans,
Thanks for visiting our myspace page! I'd be the first to agree those photos are weak. Maybe your comments will inspire me to get off my butt and put together something better. We're going into the studio next month so that might be a good opportunity.
I stand behind my comments to Mr. Kcuf.
Gallo was not "bullied" off of this board. Anyone who believes that doesn't know or understand Gallo. The text where his old posts used to be says, "Removed at the request of the author." This appears to be his own decision. I don't expect him back. Time to move on.
Peter
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ReneVanLien
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| Posted: 02/23/2009 at 8:18 AM Post subject: RE:my name backwards |
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I think it is true what you say Bolderbean.
Gallo is not the type that gets bulleid away anyway and it is his own decision.
Still I am curious for what his reason is to "over-react" ? in such a way...
But as we all know... he is quite the character.
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my guess is that gallo was upset that hank was working on a film about beans. He probably thought that was his turf.
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Jimbeans
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Boulder I just thought it was funny how this forum is a bunch of grown men or should be grown men talking about guitar bridges and stuff and your telling people to grow up just sounded hipocritcal thats all......
For all of you that think Gallo owes you pics of his travis beans after singling him out and ranting off from your jealousy and hate that is hilarious
and I doubt he has anything against hank just cause the person that started this thread got annoyed by him for deleting his post i'm sure thats about all that was directed to the admin, I do think the admin is a swell guy by the way.... to set the record right with Jim bean and hank
as for KAMAN if we went through half his collection and found out he's reason why some were refinished or modified we too would probably cuss the instruments under our breath if they were ones we could have owned but now barely worth it since someone had to have them refinished etc due to a scratch or a imperfection in the finish......
As was mentioned before BEANS being one of a kind it's just sad someone destroying them by repaint or stripping....... whats wrong with those people
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